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Old 06-25-2011, 01:37 PM   #1
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I am sure it is in this forum somewhere, but could someone tell me how to program the key fob for 1999 s series. My fob works but the cover snaps have broken and I can't key the cover halfs together, they are taped now. Can i buy just the cover and replace the inside? If I have to reprogram how do I do it. Thanks for and and all help.

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Old 06-25-2011, 01:42 PM   #2
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Check out Richpin's How-To videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/richpin06a

He has a lot of videos regarding the S-Series Saturns. Directly, here is one on how to program the remote for the RKE (Remote Keyless Entry) module:

http://www.youtube.com/user/richpin0...12/ac_lSBVXloQ

As far as the remote is concerned, my friend bought me one from a Chevy dealership and we programmed it to my car just fine.

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Old 06-25-2011, 02:08 PM   #3
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Unless I'm mistaken, factory remotes can be re-synched at home whenever they fail to work but buying replacement remotes will not work until the bcm is programmed using GM's Tech II to allow a replacement remote to work with a Saturn; from the service manual.

Re-synching a remote that worked but may not now simply requires pressing the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons together near the car until the door locks cycle to indicate the remote synching to the bcm. Buying a replacement remote and trying the LOCK/UNLOCK synch won't work until GM programs the bcm to accept the new remote. Any other remotes should be presented at this time to be sure all remotes are programmed to the bcm.

What you can do is try a very very light application of instant glue to flow into and around the two clam shell cover joint to allow gluing the covers together. The covers should be cleaned of all grease and dirt build up from years of use to make instant glue work. A single application of instant glue to allow it to flow immediately into the cover halves will bond the covers almost immediately. If done correctly without smearing or squeezing too much, the watery instant glue flows into the joints and begins to set up. Hold or tape for a few minutes and the glue should work permanently. Now, before jumping to conclusions about 'permanent', the very little glue used can also allow breaking the cover apart a few years later to replace the battery.

I repair ac to dc adapters this way when the wiring gets chewed up by the case outlet; I crack the case cover, repair the wiring and instant glue bonds the case covers back permanently. The cases never come apart. Using only a very small amount of instant glue should allow the remote covers to hold for many years before needing to replace the battery again. Then when its necessary, careful prying will break the covers apart.

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Old 06-25-2011, 03:40 PM   #4
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Unless I'm mistaken, factory remotes can be re-synched at home whenever they fail to work but buying replacement remotes will not work until the bcm is programmed using GM's Tech II to allow a replacement remote to work with a Saturn; from the service manual.

Re-synching a remote that worked but may not now simply requires pressing the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons together near the car until the door locks cycle to indicate the remote synching to the bcm. Buying a replacement remote and trying the LOCK/UNLOCK synch won't work until GM programs the bcm to accept the new remote. Any other remotes should be presented at this time to be sure all remotes are programmed to the bcm.
Maybe it's different on a '99 with the alarm? But I remember sc2boy and I jumping pins on the OBDII connector and holding down the buttons on the remote.

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Old 06-25-2011, 03:59 PM   #5
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I referred to the service manual for info. If its works then it may be the inside secret but shorting the 12v pin (if used) to something may do more harm than good if the pin-outs aren't correct........

Is this for pre-bcm cars? Body Control Modules were incorporated in 2000 models.

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Old 06-25-2011, 04:00 PM   #6
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`99 is a second generation car and my understanding is that the programming can be a DIY job. Third generation cars (`00 thru `02) are different. If you buy a new remote, you still have to take it to the dealer to have them program it.

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Old 06-25-2011, 04:07 PM   #7
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Yes, '99 can be programmed with the paperclip (I have two '99s and have done it on both). '99 is 3rd gen head, many of the coupes are 3dr, but otherwise are still 2nd gen cars, particularly in the electronics.

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Old 06-25-2011, 04:18 PM   #8
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I referred to the service manual for info. If its works then it may be the inside secret but shorting the 12v pin (if used) to something may do more harm than good if the pin-outs aren't correct........

Is this for pre-bcm cars? Body Control Modules were incorporated in 2000 models.
I did this on my '96 SL2. Sorry, I didn't specify...I just realized that! So I don't have a BCM in the SL2, but my dad has one in his L200.

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Old 06-25-2011, 04:31 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the advice. I guess I will buy one from a Chevy dealer and have them program it. I would hate to insert paperclips and short something out.

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Old 06-25-2011, 04:47 PM   #10
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I looked again and there is a procedure as the richpin video explains. There must be a past post procedure and if you need the procedure pm me an e-mail address with car info and I'll send the pdf.

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Old 06-25-2011, 04:47 PM   #11
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The GM/Chevy dealer has to do the same thing posted above to program it.

Wolfman has a guide in the How-To library on programming the '96-'99 fob's, along with how to setup the security on '97-'99 models the way you want it.

here: http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59192

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Old 06-25-2011, 05:00 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the advice. I guess I will buy one from a Chevy dealer and have them program it. I would hate to insert paperclips and short something out.
And you don't have to go to the dealer. Just take the old remote carcass with you to Auto Zone or Advanced Auto to order a remote.

Of course it'll be a few days (and AZ may pressure you into going to the dealer), but is worth it. Junkyard is fine too.

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Old 06-25-2011, 07:23 PM   #13
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I used the paperclip method on my 99 as well when I added another fob to the system last year. Worked just fine for me. I'm not sure if it's necessary but when I added the new fob I also "reprogrammed" my existing fobs into the system at the same time.

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Old 06-26-2011, 07:46 AM   #14
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I used ebay to get a remote in decent condition. Search for any one of these:

16245100-29 (GM [art number)

218101368 (Saturn #)

AB01502T (Model/FCC ID)

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^^^^ +1; also search on ABO1502T, which is a common typo in the eBay ads.

And don't fret about shorting anything; just follow the directions carefully about which pins to connect.

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So does this mean that this procedure would work on a 2000 SC2?

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So does this mean that this procedure would work on a 2000 SC2?
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`99 is a second generation car and my understanding is that the programming can be a DIY job. Third generation cars (`00 thru `02) are different. If you buy a new remote, you still have to take it to the dealer to have them program it.
'00-'02 require a dealer or mechanic with the right scan tool (expensive scan tool, not like an affordable code scanner).

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