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Old 06-27-2010, 10:13 PM   #1
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Default 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

I have a 2001 saturn sl1 with the sohc 4 cyl . Just bought the car from a lady that could not ge it running. The car turns over, starts the dies. I have good fuel pressure. I have replaced the crankshaft position sensor, I have been told something about a 30 min relearn but I dont know how to . any ideas would be great

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Old 06-27-2010, 10:39 PM   #2
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Default Re: 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

Welcome to the Board.

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Old 06-29-2010, 12:53 PM   #3
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Default Re: 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

the car does not have passlock any other sugestions

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Old 06-29-2010, 03:52 PM   #4
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Put the gas pedal all the way to the floor, then turn the key and try to start. If it starts, replace the ECTS (and connector, if corroded).

I take it you have good spark?

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Old 06-29-2010, 05:19 PM   #5
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Default Re: 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

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the car does not have passlock any other sugestions
Yes it does, 2000-2002 models have it.

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Old 06-29-2010, 07:30 PM   #6
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Default Re: 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

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the car does not have passlock any other sugestions
As bluesl2 said you do have passlock. It is not a key encode passlock system. It is in the ignition cylinder and housing.

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Old 07-02-2010, 09:09 AM   #7
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Default Re: 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

Well I tried to do the relearn but I could never get the security light to flash or better yet I could not find it any ideas

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Old 07-02-2010, 05:22 PM   #8
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Default Re: 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

When you first turn the key to run do you hear the fuel pump run for a couple seconds? Check the fuse if not.

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Old 07-11-2010, 11:34 AM   #9
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ok so this is what I got

I used he code scanner and it said the tps sensor was bad
so I changed it I can now start the car if I keep the throttle around half way and it will stay running al long as I dont let the rpms drop below around 1800 but If I keep pushing the gas it stays running and running good it sound like

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Old 07-11-2010, 08:18 PM   #10
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First of all this is a 2001 SL1, bad intake manifold gasket, this is the first place to look for a known problem and it causes all kinds of codes and runs terrible. Check this and replace it ,if it's not bad it will be.

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Old 07-11-2010, 08:37 PM   #11
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It may need to relearn its idle servo position after replacing the tps.

On most older cars EGR stuck open is the normal cause of "it starts then dies".

You could always pull the egr and start it and see if it helps..........If it starts and stays running Bingo.

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Old 07-17-2010, 01:06 AM   #12
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Default Re: 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

ok here we after some trial and error we got it started
it is hard to start but starts and runs decent and now will stay idling.
it is very sluggish one thing I should have pointed out was that the car was setting up for 8 months without being started because the previous owner did not know how to fix it.

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Put some dry gas in also.

Can you drive it, or no tags?

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Use the Forum Jump below to find the How-to library about the infamous engine coolant temperature sensor (ECTS). Yours may have the original plastic one and needs to be replaced with the brass one. Hard starting and flooding are only two of many issues with faulty ects'.

Having the car sit for so many months creates new problems. Cars don't like sitting still and like being used otherwise things occur that don't when used once a week, even if just starting and idling for a half hour.

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Default Re: 2001 saturn sl1 sohc 4 cyl starts then dies

This "30 minute pass lock relearn" procedure worked for me. The battery was replaced in my 2002 SL1, the car would turn over, but would not start. My security light was flashing. Following the 30 minute relearn procedure fixed the problem.

note...the original problem was caused by the chattering door lock issue
(documented in another posting on this site). This problem was draining the battery and was temporarily fixed by removing the driver side power lock switch (a 2 minute job). The white plastic actuator in the switch had broken.

procedure is as follows.

1. Start with the key in the OFF position.
2. briefly turn it to the CRANK positon (very briefly try to start the car)
3. The car will try to start (it will turn over, but will not start)
4. Leave the key in the RUN position as if the car started
5. The security light will be flashing.
6. Wait 10 minutes (almost exactly) until the SECURITY light goes out (wait on the light not the time)
7. When the light goes out turn the key to the OFF position (keep the key in the ignition) for 5 seconds
8. Repeat steps 1-7 two more times for a total of 3 cycles (30 minutes).
9. After the 3rd cycle, starting with the key in the OFF position (per step 7), start the car.
NOTE: On this next start cycle the car will actually learn the passcode from the BCM


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This "30 minute pass lock relearn" procedure worked for me. The battery was replaced in my 2002 SL1, the car would turn over, but would not start. My security light was flashing. Following the 30 minute relearn procedure fixed the problem.

note...the original problem was caused by the chattering door lock issue
(documented in another posting on this site). This problem was draining the battery and was temporarily fixed by removing the driver side power lock switch (a 2 minute job). The white plastic actuator in the switch had broken.

procedure is as follows.

1. Start with the key in the OFF position.
2. briefly turn it to the CRANK positon (very briefly try to start the car)
3. The car will try to start (it will turn over, but will not start)
4. Leave the key in the RUN position as if the car started
5. The security light will be flashing.
6. Wait 10 minutes (almost exactly) until the SECURITY light goes out (wait on the light not the time)
7. When the light goes out turn the key to the OFF position (keep the key in the ignition) for 5 seconds
8. Repeat steps 1-7 two more times for a total of 3 cycles (30 minutes).
9. After the 3rd cycle, starting with the key in the OFF position (per step 7), start the car.
NOTE: On this next start cycle the car will actually learn the passcode from the BCM

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