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Old 03-01-2008, 05:37 PM   #1
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Default 2002 OEM Fog Light Installation L200

Hi all, new to the forum. My son has posted on here a few times with a 1998 SL2 (kx250ryder).

I have searched a few times and found alot of threads saying the OEM fog lights are nothing to write home about. Still, I was looking to add the OEM lights and factory dash switch.

I can get the parts, but wasn't sure if the wiring would be a problem. Some threads say that the wiring is there, some say that it isn't. Anyone know for sure?

I was thinking about doing factory light housings, but putting in a brighter aftermarket bulb. Best of both worlds, factory fit, but aftermarket brightness. Anyone know if this can be done and how?

Thanks!

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Old 03-02-2008, 05:27 PM   #2
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Default Re: 2002 OEM Fog Light Installation L200

I have a 2003 LW200, different lamps, but sounds like the same issue I had when I bought the car in 2004. Mine did NOT have the wiring built-in. So I bought the factory lamps, and I ended up using a remote switch, it looks like a regular fob, inside the car, and the remote relay under the hood. I tapped a hot line (with inline fuse), and instead of sending that output directly to the lamps, it goes to a small relay, like the ones in the fuse box under the hood. It is stuck to the fuse box with double-sided velcro tape. For the signal, I think I ended up using the left side parking lamp circuit, so that it would always go off with the key.
2 (at least) bad things about this -
1. I also stuck the fob to the console, so it's always easy to get to, but it does not look "factory", for sure.
2. With this setup, the fogs would be on for low beam or high beam - they should be off with high beams on, with a proper factory setup
That said, it's nice to have them, and you might be able to figure out something better.
Good luck.

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Old 03-03-2008, 11:08 AM   #3
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Default Re: 2002 OEM Fog Light Installation L200

The problem I have seen with the factory fogs is the lens is very flimsy, so if you put a "Hot" bulb in place of the factory one you may well melt the lens.
I have the factory ones and they are for looks only, they add nothing in as far as increased visibility.
The fogs used on the 2003 Alero are projector type and do add useable light, might be worth a look.

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Old 03-30-2008, 01:21 PM   #4
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Default Re: 2002 OEM Fog Light Installation L200

My father and I figured out the factory wiring harness, and will have properly functioning fog lights (automatically turn off with high beams, etc) that are as close to factory as possible.

Unfortunately, there is no easy plug in fix, as the harness is just non existent from the switch to the light locations themselves. Although running your own wiring is no more difficult than a stereo install that would include amplifier wiring.

I have photographed the entire process (incl. relay wiring diagram) and will post, we are just waiting on the final pieces from PA (we are in AZ, approx 5 days, likely finished next weekend) which are the 880 series fog light pigtails.

Materials purchased in all:
Saturn Fog Light Switch
Saturn Fog Lights
Saturn Fog Light Bulbs
Saturn Fog Light Relay
Hella 880 Replacement Pigtail Connectors
16 Gauge Wire (interior)
12 Gauge Wire (engine bay)
12 feet conduit (factory look and weather protection)
Crimp Connectors
Screw eyelet (to connect power to + batt terminal)

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Old 03-30-2008, 10:40 PM   #5
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Default Re: 2002 OEM Fog Light Installation L200

honestly ur better off just goin aftermarket with the fog lamps. They really don't do anything for your vision at night.

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Old 03-31-2008, 07:21 PM   #6
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Default Re: 2002 OEM Fog Light Installation L200

I have been dying to install fog lights into our 2005 L300 since we bought it! How much did the OEM fog lights, switches and wiring harnesses cost?

I was thinking it'd be cheaper to go this route:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...spagenameZWD1V

and fabricating them to work. I was going to wire them to come on with the headlamps.

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Old 04-06-2008, 01:09 PM   #7
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Default Re: 2002 OEM Fog Light Installation L200

Approx Build Time: 1 Day

Materials:
Saturn Fog Light Switch $31.42
Saturn Fog Lights (incl. 880 series bulbs) $87.90
Saturn Fog Light Relay $17.45
Hella 880 Replacement Pigtail Connectors $15.00
40ft 14 Gauge Wire $18.00
12ft 12 Gauge Power Wire $6.00
6ft 3/8 flexible wire loom (battery to lights) $10.00
4ft 1/2 inch flexible wire loom (firewall to battery) $8.00
4 Crimp Connectors $1.00
Screw eyelets $0.25
Inline Fuse Holder $3.00
10A Fuse $0.25

Approx Cost $198.50
NOTE: This cost could be dramatically reduced with aftermarket parts. Goal was for a factory looking setup

Tools:
Screwdriver (Std. & Phillips)
10mm Ratchet & Socket
1/2Ē Ratchet & Socket for Battery & Ground Connection
Wire Strippers
Wire Cutters
Electrical Tape
Zip Ties
Continuity Tester
Soldering Iron (optional, I donít like crimp connectors)

1.) Remove Kick Panel



2.) Remove Glove Box






NOTE: Picture illustrates pin in featured in center must be removed.



3.) Remove Bezel


4.) Remove Radio


5.) Remove Dummy Switch From Bezel


6.) Install Fog Light Switch Into Bezel
[No Photo]
7.) Splice Yellow & Brown wire On Top Of Fog Light Harness
NOTE: I am designating top as the part of the harness with the bump for the connector clip to attach to. There is another yellow and brown pair on the bottom of the harness, do not use! Yellow = Power, Brown = Ground
8.) Run Yellow & Brown Wires to Relay

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Old 04-06-2008, 01:14 PM   #8
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9.) Crimp Slip Connectors to Yellow, Brown, Batt Power and Fog Light Wire


10.) Connect Wires Per Diagram To Relay
NOTE: Your relay lugs may be in a different position. Pay attention to the numbers, not the orientation of the pins.
Switch Wire= Yellow From Harness = 86
Ground Wire = Brown From Harness = 85
Battery Wire = 30
Light Wire = 87


11.) Stow Relay Inside Kick Panel (see earlier Kick Panel Removal Photo)
NOTE: It would be a good idea to somehow fix the relay either to the wiring, or to the side of the Module nearby

12.) Remove Weatherstrip


13.) Remove Access Panel




14.) Run Power & Light Wires Through Access Panel
NOTE: Sealant was used as a precaution.


15.) Feed Power & Light Wires Through Grommet


16.) Run Wire Loom To Battery Area (w/ power & light wire inside)
17.) Install Inline Fuse Holder on the End of Batt Power Wire
18.) Install Screw Eyelet On Batt Power Wire
19.) Connect Batt Power Wire to Positive Junction Box Connection


20.) Attach Fog Lights and bulbs to Bumper
NOTE: Photos taken after the fact with wiring in place



21.) Run Wire Loom down to Driverís Fog Light (w/ light wire inside)
NOTE: Photo taken after the fact, do not zip tie loom yet


22.) Clip Center Plastic of Fog Light Pigtail Connector So Bulb Will Fit (if necessary)
NOTE: Light is visible between lugs, this is where material was removed


23.) Crimp Light Wire To One Lead Of Fog Light Pigtail Connector
24.) Crimp Ground Wire To Fog Light Pigtail Connector
[23-24 Not Pictured]

25.) Connect to Chassis Ground Connection (run through loom)

26.) Splice Light Wire At Driverís Fog Light and Run to Passenger Fog Light
[26 Not Pictured]

27.) Run Wire Loom to Passenger Fog Light (w/ light wire inside)


28.) Crimp Light Wire to One Lead of Passenger Fog Light
29.) Crimp Ground Wire to One Lead of Passenger Fog Light
30.) Run Ground Wire Through Loom Back to Chassis Ground Connection
NOTE: See earlier Ground Connection Photo
31.) Connect Both Fog Lights
32.) Test System
NOTE: Make sure good battery, ground, as well as all relay connections are correct and tight.
33.) Tape or Zip Tie Wire Loom Closed

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Old 04-06-2008, 01:16 PM   #9
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:32 AM   #10
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Default Re: 2002 OEM Fog Light Installation L200

Okay, I understand that this is old, but no one ever thanked kx250ryder? It may not be rocket surgery, but I don't think that we're at our saturation point for tutorials on this forum.
If you're still around, thanks for the walk through. And if you do see this, I might have some questions for you in the near future.

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