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Old 12-31-2007, 08:16 AM   #1
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Default Shifting into overdrive, or not!

My daughter has a 98 SL2 143,000 miles and noticed lately that when you first drive it in the morning it does not want to shift into overdrive for a couple of miles. after that it seems to be o.k. Seems to have started since colder weather has set in. I just changed the trans fluid and filter in September and I just checked to make sure the fluid level is right and everything looks good. Any thoughts on this issue would be appreciated. Thanks, Brian. Oh, and I guess you figured out it is an automatic. sorry

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Old 12-31-2007, 10:27 AM   #2
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Change your ECTS?? if not do it. theres a sticky in the How-to

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Old 12-31-2007, 11:24 AM   #3
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Default Re: Shifting into overdrive, or not!

ECTS isn't always to blame for all Saturn issues.

I changed mine less than 3k ago, and I've experienced a poor/failing ECTS several times so I know what it's like.... my car does the same thing. The engine is just running cold. I don't think there is any type of mechanical fix for this problem, my '96 SL2 has done this since day 1.

Have her warm the car up a little before she takes off, or install a remote car starter for her!

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Old 12-31-2007, 11:34 AM   #4
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Default Re: Shifting into overdrive, or not!

Thanks for the replys. I did change the ECTS in october but didn't really see any change in anything. I was thinking too it was just the engine and trans are cold because once warmed up it seems to run fine. Not a problem just wanted to make sure it wasn't something major. Thanks again.

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Old 12-31-2007, 01:10 PM   #5
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I believe it's mentioned in my owner's manual that the transmission will not shift into overdrive until the temp sensor in the trans says the fluid is at a certain temp. I know mine (I live in ND) won't shift into OD until about 5 minutes of highway time off a cold start. If it seems like the car's taking an inordinately long time to shift into OD, it may be worth checking the Trans temp sensor.

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Old 12-31-2007, 04:23 PM   #6
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Thanks for the replys. I did change the ECTS in october but didn't really see any change in anything. I was thinking too it was just the engine and trans are cold because once warmed up it seems to run fine. Not a problem just wanted to make sure it wasn't something major. Thanks again.
How about the thermostat? Mine was bad last winter, and the trans wouldn't shift into 4th on the highway because it cooled the car down to the point where it was running on closed loop (or did I say that backwards? I can never remember). Once the car warmed up it would shift fine, and now that I've replaced the thermostat the shifting is normal.

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Old 01-01-2008, 02:45 AM   #7
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I would recommend you let the car warm up to begin with...also don't rev it to try to warm it up quicker...that doesn't work and won't help anything...instead might cause problems. And I'd suggest being easy on it until it warms up fully...no high RPM's.

I don't think it's a problem personally...cars tend to be different when they aren't warmed up...I sure know how mine acts...I let him warm up at lower temps...especially anything under 40. Above 40, I'm easy on him til he warms up.

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Old 01-01-2008, 12:05 PM   #8
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could it just be not engaging tcc
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Default Re: Shifting into overdrive, or not!

Normal. The car is likely going into "overdrive" aka 4th gear just fine. What you are not feeling is the torque converter locking up. That will not happen until (as mentioned already) until the engine warms to a certain temp.

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Old 01-01-2008, 01:25 PM   #10
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Default Re: Shifting into overdrive, or not!

well that sort of answers a question i've been asking myself. and it's supposed to be freezing in the morning down here so i better start out early and warm her up

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well that sort of answers a question i've been asking myself. and it's supposed to be freezing in the morning down here so i better start out early and warm her up
you should always let the car warm up Each metal part in the engine has been broken in to fit perfectly only at operating temperture tho. Like doing a warm up before you start running

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Old 01-02-2008, 03:19 AM   #12
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you should always let the car warm up Each metal part in the engine has been broken in to fit perfectly only at operating temperture tho. Like doing a warm up before you start running
Yup. Just like I don't really feel like driving until the car is warmed up because as I am sitting there shivering waiting for the heat to be able to be turned on my car is sitting there shaking too, LOL. Kinda hard to move when you get too cold, LOL.

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Old 01-03-2008, 05:28 PM   #13
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Mine does it too....The ECm will not let the car go into lockup till the car is a certain temp....

Her best bet is for her to take it easy on it till it locks up.....its bad to go all out on a cold motor..

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