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Old 12-16-2010, 08:40 PM   #1
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I noticed my OEM rear shocks were leaking. I ordered a set of Monroe's from Amazon to replace them.

It was horrifying to see how cheap the factory shock was. The top half was plastic. The Monroe shock easily had twice the damping action and was about 50% wider than the OEM shocks.

The ride is much improved over the OEM shock. Quiet smooth and well controlled.

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Old 12-16-2010, 09:44 PM   #2
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More info on the Monroe Reflex shocks...



Reflex Shock Absorber
The Monroe Reflex® truck shock absorber with the patented Impact Sensor™ Technology combines specially tuned valving with a Fluon banded piston. The Impact Sensor™ valve has the ability to sense acceleration to improve the handling, safety, and overall ride characteristics of sport-utility vehicles, mini-vans and light trucks. The Impact Sensor™ base valve will sense a bump in the road and automatically adjust the shock to absorb the impact, leaving the shock with greater control when it is needed. The features of the Monroe Reflex truck shock absorber make it the superior shock for improved handling, safety, and comfort in all road conditions.
Impact Sensor™ Technology: Innovative valving provides greater control for handling, while improving ride comfort.
All Weather Fluid: Contains special modifiers to reduce friction and ensure smooth rod reaction.
Full Displaced Valving: Better valving range on both the compression and extension cycles of the unit for a smooth comfortable ride.
Fluon Banded Piston: Enhances responsiveness to changing road conditions.
Nitrogen Gas Charged: For improved ride and handling, helps maintain tire to road contact by reducing aeration.
"2 1/4" or 2" Diameter Reserve Tube: Allows more fluid carrying capacity for a cooler running unit.
"1-3/8" Bore: Lower operating pressure than standard 1" bore units.
"5/8" Piston Rod: Heavy duty nitrocarburized rod for long service life.
"Special Seal: "Self-lubricating" fluid seal designed to retain gas without excessive wear or friction

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Old 12-17-2010, 04:17 PM   #3
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Well, a plastic dust cover has no mechanical function and it's lighter than steel. I've seen them on very expensive shocks. Just curious, did you discover the leaking shocks or did a tech point it out to you? Was the leaking shock oil represented by a fuzzy, black mess on the shock or more like fresh engine oil?

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Old 12-17-2010, 06:03 PM   #4
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BobbyP- And plans on replacing the fronts? If so, what's in store?

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Old 12-18-2010, 03:23 PM   #5
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No immediate plans on replacing the fronts. I am concerned over the negative comments posted on this forum about the Monroe front struts, I'm not sure what direction I may go when the time comes. RockAuto only lists the Monroe Sensa-Trac strut for the VUE.

A few weeks ago I was closely looking at my left rear tire to see why it was losng about 3 pounds a week of air. I then noticed a shiny oil on the outside of the inner metal tube of the shock. No huge buildups of dirt or sludge, yet.

Granted the plastic outer tube does function primarily as a dust shield, but everything about the OEM shock pales in comparison to the Monroe shock.

The improvement in ride was well worth the $75 for the shocks. It took about 40 mins to replace both of them.

It took more time removing the inner fender liners than replacing the shocks. The same socket that fits the lugs also fits the bolts that hold the shock in place.

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Old 12-18-2010, 04:12 PM   #6
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No immediate plans on replacing the fronts. I am concerned over the negative comments posted on this forum about the Monroe front struts, I'm not sure what direction I may go when the time comes. RockAuto only lists the Monroe Sensa-Trac strut for the VUE.
Yup, that's why I ask. There is also a KYB shock for our car, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to try that next. I think after this set of Monroes, I'll go back to OEM.

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Old 12-18-2010, 05:18 PM   #7
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Granted the plastic outer tube does function primarily as a dust shield, but everything about the OEM shock pales in comparison to the Monroe shock.
'cept maybe the top bushing.

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It took more time removing the inner fender liners than replacing the shocks.
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Old 12-18-2010, 06:14 PM   #8
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'cept maybe the top bushing.
Chazberry ... looks like the new shock was shipped before it had a chance to develop a full set of muscles.

Is the older, more robust looking shock OEM?

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Old 12-18-2010, 07:01 PM   #9
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Is the older, more robust looking shock OEM?
Yep - that's my factory shock.

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Old 12-18-2010, 09:08 PM   #10
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Yep - that's my factory shock.
Thanks sir ... its a sturdy looking beast.

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Old 12-20-2010, 08:29 PM   #11
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Bobby; you did the right thing. As for the fronts, I did the Monroes there too. They seem to be just about the same as the OEM. I'm now noticing what I think might be spring rate decay in the front and probably will replace the front springs the next time I put struts in it. It still sits at the right height but feels spongy. A good strut can mitigate this to some extent, but it also wears out struts faster.

For the OEM boys, who do you think made the OEM shocks and struts? Hint: it's the guys that now offer them on the aftermarket and it starts with 'M'. I don't think there's any value in paying three prices for the same thing at the dealership. The rear shock bushing is bigger on the OEM for ride/noise concerns. The smaller bushing on the aftermarket shock will most likely provide better damping as more motion is transferred to the shock.

I pray every night for Bilstein Sport shocks and struts for the VUE, but I don't think it's going to happen. I've had them on a couple cars and a Cherokee and they are the best consumer shocks in the world.

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Saxman- I don't know man. I have had these Monroes on for 25k miles now and I hate them. They are not very well balanced, and hitting a bump creates a sort of teeter effect where the front compresses more than the rears, and I find the car crashing on bumps. Even if Monroe manufactured the OEM shocks, they certainly did a better job valving them. I wonder how much of my anger is really just misguided frustration from my wonky steering shaft.

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Old 12-21-2010, 11:13 PM   #13
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I hear what you're saying. Now KYB has the struts and shocks as well. Maybe your problem is the springs too. I wouldn't want to go stiffer than stock, but I think a new stock set would be stiffer than these old ones.

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I hear what you're saying. Now KYB has the struts and shocks as well. Maybe your problem is the springs too. I wouldn't want to go stiffer than stock, but I think a new stock set would be stiffer than these old ones.
Can springs lose their spring and not sag?

IDK - but recently ran across procedures to measure Vue trim height.

The attached spec is for 2005 Vue (17" wheels) ... repost if you'd like spec for any other year / wheels.
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